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Weâre going deep inside the making of a book, with interviews from Penguin Random House employees in editorial, marketing, sales, and more.  If youâve ever wondered about all the behind-the-scenes work that goes into making your favorite books, this is the series for you.  Take a look at the first post in this series here. Gemina is now on shelves! We’re wrapping up this series with an interview with the authors! Amie Kaufman and Jay Kristoff stopped by the studio to talk about their book tour and much more. Listen here:Â
“Getting out and meeting readers is honestly the best part of the job” – Jay Kristoff
Fans have been raving about Gemina, and book instagrammers have a lot to say!
From Hikari of Folded Pages Distillery:
“Gemina: 10/5 Stars. Explosive, Brutal, Hilarious, Unforgiving, Fist Pumping, Jaw Dropping. These are the words Iâm using for Gemina. I started Gemina on Thursday and stayed up last night until 3 a.m. finishing it because I COULD NOT STOP.”
“I think the whole world knows how much I loved #Illuminae and so far I’m loving Hanna and Nik’s story too! Anddddd the book features illustrations by @marieluthewriter! How awesome is that?!!!”
From Ursula of ursula_uriarte:“I present you guys my favorite book of the year!!! If you haven’t read this series please do yourself a favor and get on it! If you do it simultaneously on audio is even better!”
Thanks for following along with Gemina’s Life of a Book series!
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Weâre going deep inside the making of a book, with interviews from Penguin Random House employees. Take a look at the first post in this series here. You can preorder the book here. For a Q&A with the authors, click here… and for you superfans, join First In Line here to see the full uncensored version. Follow along: #Gemina, #Illuminae, #IluminaeFiles
Gemina is a beautifully and complicatedly designed book. We spoke to Ray Shappell, Senior Designer at Random House Books for Young Readers and Stephanie Moss, Art Director at Penguin Random House, to find out more. Did you interact with the authors when planning your design?
Stephanie Moss: The interior design process is very collaborative and we work closely with the authors. When the manuscript is submitted to editorial, the authors also share art, design notes and reference material for the different types of pages throughout the book. Our first task is to then flesh out those ideas into the designs for the pages that appear most frequently. Afterward, weâll focus on the more unique pages throughout the book. These pages often involve partnering with talented illustrators, like Marie Lu, Meinart and Stuart Wade, to create Hannaâs diary pages and the ship schematics and logos. Each set of designs is then shared with the editor and authors where weâll discuss possible changes and finesse each idea until it best captures the vision for the book. After the main pages are approved, weâll begin bringing all the different components together and lay out the entire book. This is also the time when we fine tune some of the one-off page designs.
Ray’s Gemina supplies
Ray Shappell: Yes, indeed. The Illuminae Files are ultimately their brainchild, so our goal in designing the series was to enhance their unique storytelling with a one-of-a-kind package. This series is more technically complicated than any other, and requires a huge collaboration with everyone involved. Once editorial and design approve a cover, we share it with the authors and value their opinions through each step of the process.Â
Creating the cover for Gemina was actually a breeze, compared to the process for Illuminae, because I already had an established series design. When I start a new series, I always think about how the current design would work for a second and third book. (Or more if we’re lucky.) So when we finally nailed down the concept for book 1 in The Illuminae Filesâa brightly colored explosion interacting with the redacted documents from the story through acetate and a printed caseâI also had a rough proposal for Gemina and the third book in the series. When Jay and Amie were in the offices celebrating Illuminaeâs launch last November, I shared the proposed visuals for Gemina and they loved it!!! Coincidentally, the color of the blue explosion fits perfectly with the description of a black hole in Gemina. And the proposed image for book three isâŠXXXXXXXXX (redacted).
What is your favorite part of your job?
Ray Shappell: My favorite part of the job is creative problem solving. After reading the manuscript, I have so many concepts and design ideas. I love sketching them all outâpicking out typefaces, colors, textures, illustrations, hand lettering, or hiring an illustrator, photographer, or CG artistsâall to match the tone of the story. But since Iâm not the only one involved, there will be multiple moments throughout the cover design process that require finding a new solution that addresses the needs and concerns of everyone involved, while maintaining creative integrity of the original concept and design. This is extremely fun and rewarding when you are able to make a final piece of artwork that becomes the book jacket. The Illuminae Files is a great example of this working at itâs best – the end product is a much better version of the original concept.Â
Stephanie Moss: The best part of my job is collaborating with a lot of talented people. Particularly with Gemina, it was exciting to pull together everyoneâs ideas then work with artists and a wonderful designer, Heather Kelly, and see those ideas get interpreted in really neat ways.
What would surprise a layman to know about your work?
Ray Shappell: I love keeping physical authenticity of design over digital effects when possible. So in the case of Gemina, I actually set the files up clean on the computer first. However, once copy is approved, I then print out the covers and take a bunch of Sharpie markers, highlighters and tracing paper over to a light box. I cross out everything, scribble over the redacted areas, and make it messy. Then I scan it back into the computer and continue to line up all if the sharpie marks over the type on a different layer. I think it looks more realistic than if I used a digital marker.Â
Ray Shappell at work
What did you most want this one to convey?
Ray Shappell: I think that a successful jacket does a few things:Â
It intrigues you and draws you in, making you pick it up and want to learn more about the story.Â
It has great design (visual balance of graphic elements, typography, artwork, color, etc.)Â
It stands out from the competition in a new and fresh wayÂ
It informs you about the content from a very quick glance. Â
For The Illuminae series, our goal was to portray as much of the interior as we could on the cover, since it’s such a creative and unique story telling experience. Using the acetate to reveal and redact text from the case underneath was our solution for showing pieces of the storyâwith layers of actual text and phrasesâin a new and exciting manner. I hope you enjoy the secret messages that are printed in the negative of the opaque white ink!Â
How has your approach to designing covers changed over time?
Ray Shappell:Â I’m hoping to push what’s possible in our YA market. I know how to make covers that will be liked and approved easily. But I prefer the challenge to create covers that push the limits of what we have seen before. Yes, they may require extra convincing and more energy, but the end result is a cover that really stands out from the rest.
I also have been incorporating more technology into my designs. Iâve created animated gif covers for Illuminae and Gemina, but I just finished working with a CG studio to create a fully animated cover for an upcoming series. Along with an augmented reality app, it brings the print book to life! Itâs AMAZING and should be out shortly!! Â
Weâre going deep inside the making of a book, with interviews from Penguin Random House employees. Take a look at the first post in this series here. Ever wonder how an audiobook gets made? Especially one as complicated and visual as Gemina? Read on for interviews with Audiobook Producer Janet Stark, Project Director Erin Spencer, and Audio Engineer Patrick Billard. You can preorder the book here. For a Q&A with the authors, click here… and for you superfans, join First In Line here to see the full uncensored version. Follow along: #Gemina, #Illuminae, #IluminaeFiles
Listen to an excerpt of the audio book now!What is your job title, and what does that mean for your daily work?
Janet Stark: Itâs funny, many people I meet in daily life donât understand what an audiobook producer does. Senior Producer is on my business card. We producers are a bit like casting directors working in collaboration with authors. Hiring actors, scheduling recording studios, basically managing a group of contributors (directors, sound editors, sound design people), all the way to QC notes and delivering the final audio. The production process always begins with reaching out to the author or authors to get a sense of ideas or expectations for the audio, and take it from there.
Janet Stark
Patrick Billard: Iâm the Audio Engineer here at Penguin Random House studios in Los Angeles. Our facility is made up of 10 recording studios designed for the purpose of recording audio books. I setup recording sessions and make sure our actors have good recording levels that match our specs, I assist the directors with any issues they may be having during the recording process, I maintain the studios to make sure they are clean and in working order and I book actors to come back to the studios after recording is finish to do pick-up sessions to fix any outstanding issues that remain after the books have been edited and proofed.Â
Patrick Billard
How did Gemina sessions compare to the usual audiobook session setups?
Patrick Billard:Â The Gemina session was quite different from our typical session here at PRH Studios where most books have one to two readers at most. Gemina was a large project with many actors so our setup was tweaked to have 3 microphones ready to record in our largest booth. Working with Ok Hee Kolwitz, Assistant Director of Technology and Post Production, we spent a couple days setting up the studio to accommodate the 3 mic setup, which required pulling backup gear from our storage closets and arranging the mics, chairs and music stands for optimal audio quality and sight lines for the actors. Erin Spencer, the director for Gemina, was amazing and did so much prep work to make the session run smoothly. We had to work on the fly as actors were going in and out of the studio to do their lines and we had to keep the levels consistent so we always had a good match
How long did it take to cast this book?Â
Janet Stark: The best way to describe Gemina: a casting marathon. Amie & Jay provided character descriptions for the primary characters. Secondary voices, maybe ten more, were cast as the book was taken apart page by page. Erin Spencer was project director, and she and I spent long meetings with the pages to nail down the session strategy. Separating out individual page sets for each role, using Gemina’s chat style format of multiple characters per page, we more or less dissected the book to make the most of each actorâs time. Then came the many minor voices with only a few lines each. People in the studioâs vicinity were being asked to get behind the mic for a line or two, resulting in a long list of uncredited voices. Being in the moment during sessions, ready for the unexpected, was basic to this production.
Erin Spencer
What was your favorite part of this project?
Janet Stark: Recording the pop song snippets! Amie & Jay put the lyrics in the text, then the music actually found me as I listened to a blast of new selections. The melody sung by Erin, well, I canât imagine a session more fun than that.
Patrick Billard:Â Engineering the pop song part of the session was fun for me since my background is as a recording engineer at music studios in Manhattan for the past 10 years before moving to Los Angeles and starting to work here at PRH studios. Janet Stark, the producer for Gemina, also has a background in music studio engineering so we worked together during the session. I used my extensive experience tracking vocals for pop songs to coach Erin to get good takes and to help hone the parts as the song was being tweaked during the recording process, which is quite typical for most vocal tracking sessions for pop songs. We all had a lot of fun recording the pop song.
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How long does an audiobook of this complex take to produce? Is that similar to a standard audiobook production?
Janet Stark: Comparing the complexity of Gemina to a standard audiobook, Iâd have to say it was more like producing a film on audio. So many voices, evolving characters, sound effects, it all adds up to an experience I hope people enjoy.
Were you comfortable contributing voices here & there? Had you done something like that before?
Patrick Billard:Â Yes, Erin and Janet recruited most of the staff here at PRH to do wild lines and it was a lot of fun. For me it was a good experience being on the other side of the glass, as it makes me realize what itâs like to be a voice actor and that itâs not nearly as easy as it may look or sound. It also made me appreciate Erinâs skill as a director- she really knew what she was going for with my lines and did her part coaching me through the process. My particular lines were rather loud and vulgar which made me step out of my comfort zone which was exciting.
Lincoln Hoppe, voice of “AIDAN”
Project Director Erin Spencer’s take on the process:Â
Erin Spencer: Working on Gemina was a truly unique experience and unlike any other audiobook that I have directed. To begin, I read the entire book to get an overall sense of storyline and character arc. From there, itâs a matter of going over each page individually to see what is happening in each âsceneâ, which characters are speaking and how the art work and graphics can be adapted into an audio format.
We needed upwards of 20 actors for Gemina â with only a handful recurring from Illuminae, so it was up to Janet Stark and me to find the right actors for the roles we had available. Casting is very important and itâs a lot of fun to have so many actors on one title!
Erin Spencer
Studio time is really the most fun but equally the most stressful time for me, the project director. We had up to three actors in the recording studio at one time because Gemina was recorded as if we were doing scenes in a movie. The actors are able to engage and play off of one another, which really brings a sense of realism and keeps the tone very organic. As the director, I ran a very tight schedule each day. I may have had 15 actors coming in to read in a single day and the organization and scheduling had to be precise. My mantra on those days is TRUST! Trust that I did all the prep work needed to ensure we have every page covered, that all the actors are prepared with their pages, and that I have done everything I can do to make the process smooth and that the end product will be amazing! We donât read this book like you would do with other books â in order, page by page. Itâs read completely out of order based on which actors I have scheduled together that day. So, I have to trust that itâs all there. And honestly, when itâs all over, itâs simultaneously a relief and a little grief at the same time!
After Illuminae came out, I received the CDs so I could listen to it on my commute to the studio. I literally cried when I heard it. Cried out of sheer pride for all the actors who worked so hard, for the editor who did such a phenomenal job and in my mind has one of the toughest jobs of all, cried for the post-production team, and especially for Janet Stark who pulled it all together. I canât wait to cry over Gemina, too.
Weâre going deep inside the making of a book, with interviews from Penguin Random House employees in editorial, marketing, sales, and more.  If youâve ever wondered about all the behind-the-scenes work that goes into making your favorite books, this is the series for you.  Take a look at the first post in this series here. Today, we’re going further afield – independent booksellers from bookstores across the country want to share why they’re so excited about Gemina. You can preorder the book here. For a Q&A with the authors, click here… and for you superfans, join First In Line here to see the full uncensored version. Suzanne Droppert, owner and Madison Duckworth, bookseller
âNot only is this an amazing series, the books themselves are works of art. Jay & Amie weave crazy, intertwining stories that all take place in deep space. Gemina keeps you on your toes from start to finish and makes you question everything you thought you knew. One of my favorite series!â âMadison Duckworth, Liberty Bay Books
âLove this space opera series, from the page layouts to the drama between people- Hannah and Malikov, BeiTech team members with Ella…â Â âSuzanne Droppert, Liberty Bay Books
Tara Soulen and Allison Senecal
âIlluminae was one of my favorite reads of 2015, so when I managed to get my hands on an advanced copy of Gemina I was simultaneously thrilled and nervous. Nervous because my expectations were high, and I didn’t know if the particular magic that was Illuminae could be recaptured. Guess what? This book did not meet my soaringly high expectations, it exceeded them. Somehow Kaufman and Kristoff have managed to not only recapture the breakneck speed and engrossing storytelling they introduced in Illuminae, but they have also managed to introduce two new main characters so captivating I didn’t mind leaving the old ones behind. If anything I think I like Nik & Hanna even more than Kady & Ezra. Told in the same format as the previous book, through chat logs, found footage, and mixed media, this book is nearly impossible to put down.
It had me turning pages well past my bedtime, and stretching every second of my lunch break. Imagine, if you will, Die Hard set on a space station with creepy aliens slithering around, and an unlikely duo of teenagers in the starring roles. That’s Gemina. And I loved every minute of it. My one point of angst now is waiting for the third book, as this only made me hungry for more. I can’t wait until Gemina hits the shelves in October so I can buy a finished copy for myself and see all the fantastic art I know will be included. A huge thank you to Amie Kaufman and Jay Kristoff for lugging an advanced copy through the airport to gift to my store, and to Random House for providing the ARC in the first place. You have a lifelong fan.â âTara Soulen, Book Shop of Fort Collins
âSomehow even better than Illuminae! Wow. Way more action, plus flesh-eating aliens instead of a zombie virus this time. I loved Hanna even more than Kady, and got attached to some members of the murderous BeiTech squad??? Can’t wait to see Hanna’s drawings in the finished book. More emotional whiplash than Illuminae too. HOW??? Amazing.â âAllison Senecal, Old Firehouse Books
Weâre going deep inside the making of a book, with interviews from Penguin Random House employees in editorial, marketing, sales, and more.  If youâve ever wondered about all the behind-the-scenes work that goes into making your favorite books, this is the series for you.  Take a look at the first post in this series here. Today, we’re featuring an interview with Publicity Manager, Aisha Cloud. She joins us to talk about her career change, book tours, and being a cheerleader for Gemina. Read below for her inside scoop.Â
What is your job title?
Publicity Manager
What does that mean for you on a day to day?
As a publicist, my main job is to create buzz and awareness for our books by securing media coverage across print, tv, radio and online outlets and to support our authors/illustrators throughout the process. Media coverage could be in the form of a review, interview, op-ed piece, and/or giveaway, and I work closely with reviewers/reporters and then back with the authors/illustrators to produce any necessary content or prepare for interviews. I also set up events with bookstores and other venues and these include signings, presentations and school visits. We also pitch authors and illustrators for public events like festivals and comic cons (cons depend more on the genre of the book). These are just some of the different platforms we use to get the word out there about our books. My role also encompasses social media, as thatâs a really important way to drive awareness today.
How is working with this book/series different from any other title?
The layout of the book is truly breathtaking, unique and seriously out-of-this-world. I enjoyed not only reading the book and experiencing the story unravel and how it is told in a different format, but also seeing peopleâs reactions to reading it on social media. Next up for me is listening to the audio book of Illuminae. It has received a bunch of praise and I would love to experience the book in that way too.
Whatâs the most surprising thing about this job?
Our connection to everyone and everything. When I describe what I do, itâs sounds simpleâŠmanageable, but publicists are the go-to people not only for authors and illustrators, but within the company, we serve as a central hub for information that is needed by sales, marketing and editorial. Besides the author, we are a spokesperson and cheerleader for the books and we want everyone (I mean, everyone!) to know the next big book to read as it might very well change your lifeâŠor make your long plane ride more enjoyable!Â
Describe Gemina in one sentence.
I called Illuminae a game-changer. But Gemina is more than a game-changer, itâs revolutionary. Expect the unexpected and enjoy the ride!
Do you have a favorite part of the book? Favorite element or visual aspect?
My favorite part is yet to comeâŠweâve got surprises galore and I canât wait for fans to learn about them!
Readers can pre-order Gemina here, and  also see the rest of Marie Lu ‘s unbelievably beautiful and complex illustration of the Heimdall space station!
How did you get into publicity?
I use to work in advertising, I was completely miserable (used to imagine getting hit by a bus to get away from it allâŠhorrible, I know) and it hit me (the idea, not a bus) one day that working at an advertising agency wasnât the right job for me. So I thought to myself, what do I like to do? I like to read books and talk about it afterwards with fellow book lovers. So I quit my job and took the NYU Summer Publishing Program. There I learned that reading and talking, aka promoting and publicizing a book, was basically the underlying core of a publicist. After I completed the course, I got my first job as a publicity assistant at Doubleday and knew it was the right career for me!
Do you have a favorite moment or memory of the authors?
I was lucky enough to tour with the authors during the first leg of the Illuminae tour which started in Seattle. During our down time, we were able to explore the city and visit the Space Needle, Chihuly Garden and Glass, and walk the Underground tour in their buried city. It was so cool to be a tourist with the authors. It was my first time visiting the city and meeting the authors and itâs now a memory I will never forget! Also, Amie and Jay say that if they make fun of you, that for Australians means that they like youâŠso they love me a lot!
What are you looking forward to on this upcoming book tour?
I canât wait to see peopleâs reaction when they meet the authors at their events and open the book for the first time. Itâs obviously not my book, I didnât write it, but being a part of this huge project is a reward in itself, especially being able to see the delight and excitement of fans when they finally have the book in their hands.
Weâre going deep inside the making of a book, with interviews from Penguin Random House employees in editorial, marketing, sales, and more.  If youâve ever wondered about all the behind-the-scenes work that goes into making your favorite books, this is the series for you.  Take a look at the first post in this series here. Today, we’re featuring an interview with Senior Account Manager, Kimberly Langus. She joins us to talk about sales, bookstores, and accounts. Read below for her inside scoop.Â
How would you describe your job to a layperson?
The easy answer is that I sell books to Barnes & Noble, but itâs a little more complicated than that! Itâs about positioning Random House Childrenâs Books in the market and making sure that each book has the best merchandising possible. And then once a book is selling, itâs all about trying to maximize those sales. I work with Marketing, Publicity and Social Media to use every tool and opportunity available to drive consumers to buy our books.Â
When you describe Gemina to the book buyers, what is your hook? Whatâs memorable and unique about the book – why would they want to sell it to readers?
Well, Gemina wasnât too hard to pitch to the buyer because the first book, Illuminae, had done so well. It was more of a challenge to position Illuminae when I sold it in last year. On the one hand, it was really unique and Barnes & Noble is always looking for unique formats and different ways of storytelling. This was definitely that. There was nothing else like it in the teen marketplace in my experience. It had all these elements that they were looking for, but on the other hand, itâs the sci-fi genre and thatâs a really tough genre in teen.Â
Really? Thatâs shocking! Why?
Yes, it is shocking. There are very few teen sci-fi books that have had wide commercial success in recent years. Fantasy, action, adventure, survival stories- all of those are popular for teens, but for some reason sci-fi has been slower to resonate. So the account was taking a flyer with Random House in supporting Illuminae in such a big way, and it definitely paid off. So, when I went in to sell Gemina it was a much easier sales pitch.
Why do you think it performed so well?
Itâs a combination of factors. First, thereâs the amazing story and unique format. It had a really striking package. It also had great positioning and merchandising in the stores. And you have this amazing author team who were really involved in social media and also really successful on their tour. Then thereâs word of mouth combined with a great Marketing and Publicity campaign. So you canât pinpoint any one thing that made the book a success.Â
Speaking of amazing social media and exciting special features, readers can pre-order Gemina here, and  also see the rest of Marie Lu ‘s unbelievably beautiful and complex illustration of the Heimdall space station!
And when did you first hear about the book?
I know it sounds crazy, but I actually remember the editorâs pitch of Illuminae. Iâm going to paraphrase, but basically she said, âIâm not a fan of sci-fi but this book is so much more than thatâ. I do like sci-fi and had just read The Martian so I was already in the sci-fi mode. It didnât take a lot of convincing for me to pick up Illuminae after hearing Melanie’s pitch. I think one important thing to note is that when an editor is so passionate about a book and gives such a great pitch it really does affect how the sales team feels about that book and sells it to their accounts. I remember the editorâs pitch for The Book Thief and I heard that presentation over 10 years ago.  I remember the pitch for The Maze Runner. I remember these presentations because the editors were so passionate about the books that it seeps into how I feel about them too.Â
What do you like about Gemina in particular?
Well I think whatâs amazing about Gemina is that it could have been a repeat of Illuminae because itâs the same kind of storytelling conceit; Itâs told in texts, redacted transcripts and memos. The danger is that it might not feel as fresh as the first book. Also itâs a sequel and uses completely different characters, which is also a little dangerous  because readers get invested in the protagonists of the first book and theyâre expecting those same characters to be in the second book. When theyâre not there, itâs almost like starting the series again from the beginning. But somehow the authors were able to pull it off and Gemina  is even better than Illuminae. I think they actually improved upon what they had done the first time. You get just as invested in these new characters. Itâs so fast-paced; you just canât stop turning the pages. Iâm so in awe of their writing and imagination and storytelling and how they collaborate together.  Â
How do you work with editorial, marketing, and publicity?
I work with all those groups in the regular course of business- talking to publicity about author events and working with marketing on sales materials and galley mailings. What I find most exciting about working with those groups is when you can create unique merchandising or marketing for the accounts. That gives me an opportunity to really be creative and to try to shape the B&N experience of the book thatâs different from the Amazon experience, or the Target experience, or the Indie experience. Hereâs one example: I had worked with B&N on B-Fest which was their nationwide teen book festival this past June. One of the items we created was a Penguin Random House âInsiderâs Guide to B-Fest. And it featured a lot of great content, including a piece from Amie Kaufman and Jay Kristoff.Â
I was actually in the B&N in Yonkers on the first night of B-Fest and there was this group of teens that were looking in their guides and they turned to the Illuminae /Gemina spread and one of the girls cries out , âOh my God, Illuminae! You guys have to read this!â That is probably the best part of my job, it was like everything coming full circle. To set up Illuminae last year, to help position Gemina this year, to bring exclusive content to Barnes & Noble, and to get readers excited about it. It was everything that you could hope for as a Sales Manager.
Thatâs great to hear! Do you have anything else you’d like to share?
I’d like your readers to know that what I love most about my job is being surrounded by people who love books and who love to talk about books. I know everyone says that, but itâs true. Also it’s wonderful to be a part of bringing books to customers. To know that a book reached their hands because of something I contributed is really exciting and rewarding.  Â
Weâre going deep inside the making of a book, with interviews from Penguin Random House employees in editorial, marketing, sales, and more.  If youâve ever wondered about all the behind-the-scenes work that goes into making your favorite books, this is the series for you.  Take a look at the first post in this series here. Today, we’re featuring an interview with the editor of Gemina, Melanie Cecka-Nolan. Read below for her inside scoop. This book is part of a very non-traditional trilogy. How would you describe Gemina to someone who has never heard of it before?
I would say Gemina is science fiction for people who donât think they like science fiction, and I say that because I donât think of myself as someone who likes science fiction. This is the series that really turned around my thinking about the genre. When The Illuminae Files was first pitched to me, the agents positioned it as Battle Star Galatica meets 10 Things I Hate About You. That did a really good job of setting up the story for me– action-based and stuck on a spaceship but with the intensity, the humor, the love and romance of a relationship story. When I read the manuscript for the first book, I felt like Iâd ingested a drug. I was just bouncing off the walls. And I remember thinking, if I can have this kind of reaction to it as a non-sci-fi person, everybody would.
For those who donât know, an editor will have a relationship with an agent and the agent pitches manuscripts to the editor that they think they’ll like. So why do you think that this agent sent you this book?
Knopf is known for being very literary, but also for taking chances with its books and authors. I think agents are always looking for someone who is going to respond with the right combination of vision and instantaneous loveâespecially with unusual projects.  So although The Illuminae Files may not have been my typical kind of book, I think the agents saw Knopf as the right publisher.
Whatâs a book or a series that youâve worked on that you think is more of your type or style?
I tend to be drawn to books that are girl-centric. I have a little boy at home who has opened my eyes to a much broader range of reading, but Iâm always a thirteen, fourteen-year-old girl at heart. Mouse Scouts is one of my favorites; itâs about a troop of little girl scouts who happen to be mice, thatâs kind of me in a nutshell. There are some editors who excel at really gritty things, edgy teen fiction, male-centric narrativesâand thatâs not really my core strength. But the Illuminae Files was so immediately accessible and the female characters were so well-drawn and felt like friends – it broke though and worked, even for a âgirlâ editor.
What was your favorite part about Gemina or something that surprised or interested you about this second book?
Well itâs a trilogy, and I knew the second book was going to introduce a new set of characters and situations as well as advance the larger story. I think what has surprised me is the way the authors continue to one-up themselves. Thereâs are a couple of big plot twists in Illuminae and there are three or four twists in Gemina. As a reader I didnât see them coming, and even as an editor who went into the story with a sense of how events were going to play out, I still didnât see those things coming. Thatâs a huge treat– to go into a book with a certain set of expectations and having them completely blown apart because what comes in is so much more entertaining. InIlluminae the protagonists are sort of like the hometown sweethearts: They are great kids, very engaging, very personable. InGemina the âheroesâ arenât set up the same way. The female lead isnât particularly likable. Sheâs spoiled, sheâs very pampered, she very me-centric. The male lead is kind of the lovable anti-hero. Heâs a gang member, heâs covered in tattoos that allude to a violent history, he deals drugs, so on the surface heâs not necessarily someone you see emerging as the hero. But youâre so swept up in who they are and how they change and grow over the course of the story that it completely changes your perception.
People tend to think “editor” when they think of publishing, but many may not know the details of your job. So: when you get a manuscript what happens next? How do you start making a book?
It starts with a lot of dry administrative things; we sign the book up, we go to a contract, and then I start by working backward from when we anticipate that we want the book to come out. We work with our internal production and design groups to mastermind a schedule.
Because this is such a complex book visually, the design aspects require a lot more time than a typical book might, with its tidy lines of text on a page. For Illuminae and Gemina, literally every page is a different design. The authors were also heavily involved in the design inspiration for the book, so we had to factor them into the blueprint when we were setting up the schedules.
Once we had a schedule down, it was easier to address the more straightforward editorial things with the authors. We communicate primarily through email because theyâre in Australia, which is a fourteen-hour time difference. I went through the book with big-picture things in mind, like what could be improved and what did we have questions about.
Once we feel like weâve really gotten a story in the best possible shape, it goes over to the copy editor who knows how to do everything I donât know how to do in terms of grammar and consistency. Itâs really cleaning the text for things we might not have caught in the editorial process. Copyediting a book of this size takes about four to six weeks. The manuscript then goes back to the authors so they can address any queries that the copy editor has found. They generally have about a month with it and then we send it to our design group. And from there, the book needs a minimum of ten months to come together before finally going to the printer, with numerous passes and reviews by everybody in between.
These are two original concepts we tried for the jacket:
Given the non-traditional reading experience and the fact that the whole conceit of the book is based on  documentation, we wanted to find a way to present all of those documents visually. These ideas got dismissed very early on, but they ended up inspiring the case cover design, where designer Ray Shapell was able to let loose with the whole idea of redaction, leaking classified lines, and showing hand-written communications from the characters. Although abandoning the original jacket designs felt like a setback initially, the process brought us directly to final packaging.
These cover concepts look a lot more like traditional sci-fi to me.
They do. At the time the first book, Illuminae, was coming together, we hadnât really seen sci-fi break though on a young adult level, so we were trying to arrive at a cover look that wouldnât scare off readers who arenât traditional fans of the genre. Â But I think these books have really broken the mold.
I think a lot of people wouldnât realize an editor not only deals with the content of the book, but that you have a say in the cover design and youâre a big part of those discussions. Is there anything else that would surprise someone outside of publishing about your job?
I donât sit at my desk and edit. 99% of my editorial work takes place at my kitchen table or my couch on the weekends. Most of my editorial life in the office is spent at meetings or answering emails, and I need to disengage from the office in order to really get into a creative mind space.
Photo Credit: Christopher Tovo
Why do you think fans are responding so strongly to this series, outside of its non-traditional layout?
I think anybody who has met the authors in person feels like theyâve met characters from the book. Their personalities inform every single character in the story; theyâre funny, theyâre intense, their rapport together just makes you want to sit back and watch them talk to each other. Their writing process involved sending each other blind chapters, and they wrote some passages by text messaging each other rather than sitting side by side, nursing every line in a common voice. So their individual writing personas feel intact and their living, breathing process gets contained in the book. Â I think thatâs something readers can sense when they read it – Itâs just a very personal reading experience, and they make it super accessible. I remember saying to someone, âit may be 600 pages long, but you could easily give it to a reluctant reader,â because there are all these different visuals to break up the reading experience, and the humor and voices and the pace just sweep you along.
Is there anything else people might like to know about the book?
AÂ slightly non-standard occurrence happened this summer when we sent the authors some pre-press pages to signâ4,000 pages, to be exact. UPS got the address wrong, and Jay was running around trying to locate the boxes. One thing you have to know about Jay is that heâs a big guy and he does a really amazing job of pulling off a badass author persona, but the truth is heâs a total sweetheart. So when he emailed to say that he had found the boxes and stole them off of someoneâs porch, I just had to laugh. Thatâs the kind of stuff that happens working with these two: petty theft might be involved. Thereâs always something slightly unusual that comes together.
Read more about Gemina and Illuminae below, and be sure to check back soon for more behind-the-scenes interviews!Follow along: #Gemina, #Illuminae, #IluminaeFilesFollow the authors on Twitter (@AmieKaufman, @misterkristoff) and Instagram (@amiekaufmanauthor, @misterkristoff)Visit the website here: illuminaefiles.com
Weâre going deep inside the making of a book, with interviews from Penguin Random House employees in editorial, marketing, sales, and more.  If youâve ever wondered about all the behind-the-scenes work that goes into making your favorite books, this is the series for you.  Take a look at the first post in this series here. This is part 2 of our round-table discussion with the digital marketing team. For part 1, click here. Describe Gemina in one sentence.Kate: âFast-paced page-turnerâ
Cayla: âI donât know whatâs faster – Â whether itâs your heart racing when youâre reading it, or how fast youâre turning the pagesâ
Stephanie, what was the best part of making the website?Stephanie: One of the interesting parts about this website project is that we werenât coming to it with a clean slate; a website already existed for the first book in the series, Illuminae. Therefore, when planning the website for Gemina, we really had to look at the Illuminae Files website and see how we could update it to work for both books. We did a full redesign to incorporate the new blue elements from the Gemina book cover, and we developed a plan for exclusive content we can bring to the website. You really want to make sure that a website is an ongoing part of a campaign to ensure that users have a reason to come back to your site, and weâre really excited about all the great content we have planned for this site.
Cayla: Yeah, the website is something youâre going to want to keep your eye on. A really cool sweeps we had a couple months ago let people enter for a chance to have their name on the casualty list in Gemina, and the excitement around that was really cool.
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Did anything surprise you about this project? Was anything hard or especially fun?Cayla: Iâve never been a big sci-fi reader, but once I got going and realized it wasnât anything I thought it would be, I started to have so much fun. I guess thatâs also a hope for me: I want people to discover The Illuminae Files and Gemina and realize, âOh, Iâm enjoying this book and surprising myselfâ. Itâs because of the style. That was an intial challenge that turned into something I truly loved.
Stephanie: I canât really say what the most fun part is going to be yet â because itâs going to be website updates that I canât talk about yet!
Kate: I was excited to make the site better and to become more strategic about how we were driving people there. Thatâs a big thing for digital marketing: we create a lot of beautiful things but if no one sees them, whatâs the point? We wanted to make sure we were getting people to see all the content we make. Itâs also always a pleasure when you work with authors that are willing to do anything and eager to participate. That makes the job a lot easier⊠not just a good book!
Any last words?Cayla: Well, every morning when I get my desk, I open a tool that aggregates the images people tag with #Gemina or #IluminaeFiles, and I push the new content to our website. The amount that comes in each day is so inspiring â itâs not just a US fan base, itâs international, and it’s real a thrill to see it. Itâs a really great way to start the day, and it reminds me how passionate people are about this book.
Read more about Gemina and Illuminae below, and be sure to check back soon for more behind-the-scenes interviews!Follow along: #Gemina, #Illuminae, #IluminaeFilesFollow the authors on Twitter (@AmieKaufman, @misterkristoff) and Instagram (@amiekaufmanauthor, @misterkristoff)Visit the website here: illuminaefiles.com
Weâre going deep inside the making of a book, with interviews from Penguin Random House employees in editorial, marketing, sales, and more.  If youâve ever wondered about all the behind-the-scenes work that goes into making your favorite books, this is the series for you.  Take a look at the first post in this series here. Gemina is a very unique book, so our employees need to be  big-thinking and creative. We sat down for a round-table discussion with the digital marketing team at Random House Kids to find out exactly what they do to support a book. Please introduce yourselves and explain your work in this group:
Iâm Stephanie McKinley, Technical Producer at Random House Childrenâs, which means that I handle all of the technical projects for the digital marketing team. Before I started, all technical projectsâeven a copy edit on a websiteâwere completed by outside developers. Now that I am here, weâve been able to bring a lot of these projects in-house. The Illuminae Files website is one of the projects that was initially created by an outside developer that I have since updated for Gemina.
Iâm Cayla Rasi, Senior Digital Marketing Manager. My job here is to dive into our digital projects â I work closely with Stephanie and our Director, Kate. I do a lot of social: Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, you name it. Weâre always thinking of really cool ways to reach our readers.
Iâm Kate Keating â director of Digital Marketing here at Random House Kids. I oversee the department, and we basically touch everything digital. Email marketing, websites, social media, we oversee all digital strategy for the department.
What do you think is special or unique about this book? Why will readers want to get their hands on it?Stephanie: The book is just so different in the way that itâs written. With all the art elements inside, Â itâs just a completely different reading experience than anything youâre used to.
Cayla: Of course, itâs the format- Itâs just so wild, itâs so cool. But from a social media perspective, the most special part about this book is the authors. They are so engaging, they love their fans, and theyâre kind, generous people. Their social presence is magnificent, and theyâre so fun! You canât help but fall in love with them and their book. For people who arenât following them on Instagram and Twitter â youâve got to. Their personalities just shine.
Kate: Well, Itâs not like any other book Iâve seen, especially for this audience, and people are so hungry for the second book after reading Illuminae. I love how into the characters everyone is⊠they feel really connected to them. I love that the authors are willing to do anything and they understand social media⊠they really get it. Everyone in-house is saying itâs the book for people who donât necessarily know they like sci-fi.
What are some of the steps you take when you first start working on a title?Cayla: I start by reading the book. I find inspiration from between the pages. Then, I love looking at the fans and what they’re saying online. The fans give me that fire in the belly, they get me excited to work on a project:  I love being able to see what they are talking about, what matters the most to them.
Kate: Our marketing process starts with list launch meetings, when the editorial group presents all their titles for that season. Later on, we have meetings with publicity, editorial, sales, and marketing groups. We talk about comparative books in the marketplace, and how we felt about our readings of the book.
Afterwards, we create slide presentations to flesh out ideas for a marketing campaign – at this stage, it’s still loose and flexible. The next round of big meetings is called pre-sales: thatâs when we present our ideas to the field sales representatives and our president. They give us feedback, and we tweak our plans accordingly.
We also have author meetings to figure out challenges they’ve faced in the past, or things that have worked well for them before.
Next up is sales conference â at that point, everything need to be pretty finalized because editors have to send final concrete marketing/publicity/sales plans to the authors and agent. A big part of our teamâs work is prioritizing tasks, because the digital landscape changes so quickly. Sometimes we may have a whole plan that weâre starting to execute, but will suddenly need to do finish is much faster than anticipated. We try to plan as much as possible, but we do have to react to things quickly.
Cayla: Social changes all the time â so we make plans, but thereâs also so much shifting and changing so we have to stay very creative and nimble. But really itâs a matter of being able to do both: plan in advance and also work in real time.
Check back in the coming weeks for the inside scoop from the Gemina team!Follow along: #Gemina, #Illuminae, #IluminaeFilesFollow the authors on Twitter (@AmieKaufman, @misterkristoff) and Instagram (@amiekaufmanauthor, @misterkristoff)Visit the website here: illuminaefiles.com
Read more about Gemina and Illuminae below.
“I present you guys my favorite book of the year!!! If you haven’t read this series please do yourself a favor and get on it! If you do it simultaneously on audio is even better!”
Thanks for following along with Gemina’s Life of a Book series!
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Get the book here: “Gemina: 10/5 Stars. Explosive, Brutal, Hilarious, Unforgiving, Fist Pumping, Jaw Dropping. These are the words Iâm using for Gemina. I started Gemina on Thursday and stayed up last night until 3 a.m. finishing it because I COULD NOT STOP.”
“I think the whole world knows how much I loved #Illuminae and so far I’m loving Hanna and Nik’s story too! Anddddd the book features illustrations by @marieluthewriter! How awesome is that?!!!”
What is your favorite part of your job?
I was actually in the B&N in Yonkers on the first night of B-Fest and there was this group of teens that were looking in their guides and they turned to the Illuminae /Gemina spread and one of the girls cries out , âOh my God, Illuminae! You guys have to read this!â That is probably the best part of my job, it was like everything coming full circle. To set up Illuminae last year, to help position Gemina this year, to bring exclusive content to Barnes & Noble, and to get readers excited about it. It was everything that you could hope for as a Sales Manager. 
Whatâs a book or a series that youâve worked on that you think is more of your type or style?
I tend to be drawn to books that are girl-centric. I have a little boy at home who has opened my eyes to a much broader range of reading, but Iâm always a thirteen, fourteen-year-old girl at heart. Mouse Scouts is one of my favorites; itâs about a troop of little girl scouts who happen to be mice, thatâs kind of me in a nutshell. There are some editors who excel at really gritty things, edgy teen fiction, male-centric narrativesâand thatâs not really my core strength. But the Illuminae Files was so immediately accessible and the female characters were so well-drawn and felt like friends – it broke though and worked, even for a âgirlâ editor.
What was your favorite part about Gemina or something that surprised or interested you about this second book?
Well itâs a trilogy, and I knew the second book was going to introduce a new set of characters and situations as well as advance the larger story. I think what has surprised me is the way the authors continue to one-up themselves. Thereâs are a couple of big plot twists in Illuminae and there are three or four twists in Gemina. As a reader I didnât see them coming, and even as an editor who went into the story with a sense of how events were going to play out, I still didnât see those things coming. Thatâs a huge treat– to go into a book with a certain set of expectations and having them completely blown apart because what comes in is so much more entertaining. InIlluminae the protagonists are sort of like the hometown sweethearts: They are great kids, very engaging, very personable. InGemina the âheroesâ arenât set up the same way. The female lead isnât particularly likable. Sheâs spoiled, sheâs very pampered, she very me-centric. The male lead is kind of the lovable anti-hero. Heâs a gang member, heâs covered in tattoos that allude to a violent history, he deals drugs, so on the surface heâs not necessarily someone you see emerging as the hero. But youâre so swept up in who they are and how they change and grow over the course of the story that it completely changes your perception.
People tend to think “editor” when they think of publishing, but many may not know the details of your job. So: when you get a manuscript what happens next? How do you start making a book?
It starts with a lot of dry administrative things; we sign the book up, we go to a contract, and then I start by working backward from when we anticipate that we want the book to come out. We work with our internal production and design groups to mastermind a schedule.
Because this is such a complex book visually, the design aspects require a lot more time than a typical book might, with its tidy lines of text on a page. For Illuminae and Gemina, literally every page is a different design. The authors were also heavily involved in the design inspiration for the book, so we had to factor them into the blueprint when we were setting up the schedules.
Once we had a schedule down, it was easier to address the more straightforward editorial things with the authors. We communicate primarily through email because theyâre in Australia, which is a fourteen-hour time difference. I went through the book with big-picture things in mind, like what could be improved and what did we have questions about.
Once we feel like weâve really gotten a story in the best possible shape, it goes over to the copy editor who knows how to do everything I donât know how to do in terms of grammar and consistency. Itâs really cleaning the text for things we might not have caught in the editorial process. Copyediting a book of this size takes about four to six weeks. The manuscript then goes back to the authors so they can address any queries that the copy editor has found. They generally have about a month with it and then we send it to our design group. And from there, the book needs a minimum of ten months to come together before finally going to the printer, with numerous passes and reviews by everybody in between.
These are two original concepts we tried for the jacket:
Given the non-traditional reading experience and the fact that the whole conceit of the book is based on  documentation, we wanted to find a way to present all of those documents visually. These ideas got dismissed very early on, but they ended up inspiring the case cover design, where designer Ray Shapell was able to let loose with the whole idea of redaction, leaking classified lines, and showing hand-written communications from the characters. Although abandoning the original jacket designs felt like a setback initially, the process brought us directly to final packaging.
These cover concepts look a lot more like traditional sci-fi to me.
They do. At the time the first book, Illuminae, was coming together, we hadnât really seen sci-fi break though on a young adult level, so we were trying to arrive at a cover look that wouldnât scare off readers who arenât traditional fans of the genre. Â But I think these books have really broken the mold.
I think a lot of people wouldnât realize an editor not only deals with the content of the book, but that you have a say in the cover design and youâre a big part of those discussions. Is there anything else that would surprise someone outside of publishing about your job?
I donât sit at my desk and edit. 99% of my editorial work takes place at my kitchen table or my couch on the weekends. Most of my editorial life in the office is spent at meetings or answering emails, and I need to disengage from the office in order to really get into a creative mind space.
Photo Credit: Christopher Tovo
Why do you think fans are responding so strongly to this series, outside of its non-traditional layout?
I think anybody who has met the authors in person feels like theyâve met characters from the book. Their personalities inform every single character in the story; theyâre funny, theyâre intense, their rapport together just makes you want to sit back and watch them talk to each other. Their writing process involved sending each other blind chapters, and they wrote some passages by text messaging each other rather than sitting side by side, nursing every line in a common voice. So their individual writing personas feel intact and their living, breathing process gets contained in the book. Â I think thatâs something readers can sense when they read it – Itâs just a very personal reading experience, and they make it super accessible. I remember saying to someone, âit may be 600 pages long, but you could easily give it to a reluctant reader,â because there are all these different visuals to break up the reading experience, and the humor and voices and the pace just sweep you along.
Is there anything else people might like to know about the book?
AÂ slightly non-standard occurrence happened this summer when we sent the authors some pre-press pages to signâ4,000 pages, to be exact. UPS got the address wrong, and Jay was running around trying to locate the boxes. One thing you have to know about Jay is that heâs a big guy and he does a really amazing job of pulling off a badass author persona, but the truth is heâs a total sweetheart. So when he emailed to say that he had found the boxes and stole them off of someoneâs porch, I just had to laugh. Thatâs the kind of stuff that happens working with these two: petty theft might be involved. Thereâs always something slightly unusual that comes together.
Read more about Gemina and Illuminae below, and be sure to check back soon for more behind-the-scenes interviews!
Follow along:Â #Gemina, #Illuminae, #IluminaeFiles
Follow the authors on Twitter (@AmieKaufman, @misterkristoff) and Instagram (@amiekaufmanauthor, @misterkristoff)
Visit the website here:Â illuminaefiles.com
What do you think is special or unique about this book? Why will readers want to get their hands on it?
Stephanie: The book is just so different in the way that itâs written. With all the art elements inside, Â itâs just a completely different reading experience than anything youâre used to.
Cayla: Of course, itâs the format- Itâs just so wild, itâs so cool. But from a social media perspective, the most special part about this book is the authors. They are so engaging, they love their fans, and theyâre kind, generous people. Their social presence is magnificent, and theyâre so fun! You canât help but fall in love with them and their book. For people who arenât following them on Instagram and Twitter â youâve got to. Their personalities just shine.
Kate: Well, Itâs not like any other book Iâve seen, especially for this audience, and people are so hungry for the second book after reading Illuminae. I love how into the characters everyone is⊠they feel really connected to them. I love that the authors are willing to do anything and they understand social media⊠they really get it. Everyone in-house is saying itâs the book for people who donât necessarily know they like sci-fi.
What are some of the steps you take when you first start working on a title?
Cayla: I start by reading the book. I find inspiration from between the pages. Then, I love looking at the fans and what they’re saying online. The fans give me that fire in the belly, they get me excited to work on a project:  I love being able to see what they are talking about, what matters the most to them.
Kate: Our marketing process starts with list launch meetings, when the editorial group presents all their titles for that season. Later on, we have meetings with publicity, editorial, sales, and marketing groups. We talk about comparative books in the marketplace, and how we felt about our readings of the book.
Afterwards, we create slide presentations to flesh out ideas for a marketing campaign – at this stage, it’s still loose and flexible. The next round of big meetings is called pre-sales: thatâs when we present our ideas to the field sales representatives and our president. They give us feedback, and we tweak our plans accordingly.
We also have author meetings to figure out challenges they’ve faced in the past, or things that have worked well for them before.
Next up is sales conference â at that point, everything need to be pretty finalized because editors have to send final concrete marketing/publicity/sales plans to the authors and agent. A big part of our teamâs work is prioritizing tasks, because the digital landscape changes so quickly. Sometimes we may have a whole plan that weâre starting to execute, but will suddenly need to do finish is much faster than anticipated. We try to plan as much as possible, but we do have to react to things quickly.
Cayla: Social changes all the time â so we make plans, but thereâs also so much shifting and changing so we have to stay very creative and nimble. But really itâs a matter of being able to do both: plan in advance and also work in real time.
Check back in the coming weeks for the inside scoop from the Gemina team!
Follow along:Â #Gemina, #Illuminae, #IluminaeFiles
Follow the authors on Twitter (@AmieKaufman, @misterkristoff) and Instagram (@amiekaufmanauthor, @misterkristoff)
Visit the website here:Â illuminaefiles.com
Read more about Gemina and Illuminae below.
